# There is absolutely no reason to only support Mailgun

**URL:** <https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147>\
**Category:** Marketing & promotion\
**Created:** [April 30, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147 "2023-04-30T07:56:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![cajmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cajmorgan](https://forum.ghost.org/u/cajmorgan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/1 "2023-04-30T07:56:55Z")

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EDIT: If you find this devastating problem in a similar position, even if it’s a somewhat easy change in the code base, it’s not worth the hassle. I’ll recommend to look else where, some suggestions are Odoo, Listmonk and Mautic they offer this out of the box (which is resonable). Seeing that this feature has been requested for years and no one in the Ghost team adds it, is just weird. I feel there is an agenda in play here. Otherwise, it seems like an awesome project, good luck.

I got really excited when I found Ghost as a good complement to my business, I got less excited that I need to do a fork and do manual changes in the source code in order to use it as needed for my business. What you provide that bulk email are impossible from your own SMTP server, is simply not true and not providing the simple option of signing into a regular SMTP client is super strange. Getting my server blacklisted is not a risk on you, it’s a risk on me.

Mailgun is also a bad option and there are better out there, I strongly believe you have some kind of affiliate thing going on there even if you won’t admit it, I’m just getting weird vibes.

I’ll give Ghost a chance and see if it would be simple to do the code changes in order to use custom SMTP,

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**Author:** ![mjw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.ghost.org/mjw/32/30781_2.png) [@mjw](https://forum.ghost.org/u/mjw)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/2 "2023-04-30T08:15:56Z")

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See this thread:

> [@Mailgun Alternatives](https://forum.ghost.org/t/mailgun-alternatives/33201/3):
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> Why can’t bulks emails be a self-selected provider the same way that transactional emails are? You already posted [the link](https://ghost.org/docs/faq/mailgun-newsletters/) the contains the overview of how the architecture works. So the broader answer is that you can’t send newsletters with SMTP, and while it is trivial to support multiple SMTP providers, it is not at all trivial to support multiple bulk mail APIs. A self-hosted ghost installation now costs you $35/month if you want to send bulk emails, on top of hosting costs [for ~100 em…

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**Author:** ![cajmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cajmorgan](https://forum.ghost.org/u/cajmorgan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/3 "2023-04-30T08:46:10Z")

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> [@Mailgun Alternatives](https://forum.ghost.org/t/mailgun-alternatives/33201/3):
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> . So the broader answer is that you can’t send newsletters with SMTP,

Yes, but my problem is this statement I read all over the place “. So the broader answer is that you can’t send newsletters with SMTP”, this is not true. Yes, it might be hard to get it started and very easy to get blacklisted, but if you do it right, you can achieve it and many people have.

The reason why I’m a little bit mad is because, Ghost seem to be a great solution, but that you haven’t added a trivial “SMTP” - setup for bulk emails because “it’s best for you” is just weird. I’m not asking for other services, I’m asking to use my own relay which has good rep.

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**Author:** ![cajmorgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cajmorgan](https://forum.ghost.org/u/cajmorgan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 9:07am UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/4 "2023-04-30T09:07:55Z")

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EDIT: If you find this devastating problem in a similar position, even if it’s a somewhat easy change in the code base, it’s not worth the hassle. I’ll recommend to look else where, some suggestions are Odoo, Listmonk and Mautic they offer this out of the box (which is resonable). Seeing that this feature has been requested for years and no one in the Ghost team adds it, is just weird. I feel there is an agenda in play here. Otherwise, it seems like an awesome project, good luck.

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**Author:** ![John](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.ghost.org/john/32/29288_2.png) [@John](https://forum.ghost.org/u/John)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/7 "2023-05-02T17:53:14Z")

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Please have a careful read of this:  
[https://forum.ghost.org/conduct](https://forum.ghost.org/conduct)

And this:

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> Ghost is developed by a small core team and a great deal of care is given to deciding what features get built. Find out more about our product principles.

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**Author:** ![John](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.ghost.org/john/32/29288_2.png) [@John](https://forum.ghost.org/u/John)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.ghost.org/t/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-to-only-support-mailgun/38147/8 "2023-05-02T17:53:21Z")

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