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doncabreraphone · March 6, 2022, 10:22pm

I’m somewhat confused here. I installed Ghost with Casper locally, and so far, I’m seeing huge differences between what the EditorEditor shows and what I see once I preview my posts.
It’s gotten to the point where differences are so abysmal that I have to use HTML snippets to keep consistency.

The Editor looks excellent, but it differs significantly from what I end up seeing, and since Casper is the “default” theme for Ghost, I was expecting to see at least some design coherence, but so far, I’m left speechless by how inaccurate and different some of the features are.

Here’s the editor version:

And here is what I get when I publish the site.

What’s the point in introducing a new feature if there is no way for me to use it? It doesn’t even creates the styles once I press “Publish”.

Casper: 4.7.3
Ghost: 4.8

I’m using ghost locally.

Are those features something for paid customers only? If so, it should say so explicitly on the website.

mjw · March 7, 2022, 11:08am

Ghost doesn’t use a WYSIWYG editor intentionally. It has a clean interface to help creative writing.

When I want to add custom blocks, I create an HTML snippet and save this for reuse. But remember, the editor and theme use different CSS, so you need to understand and test the code you include.

Since you have included the markup in your images, it’s not possible to comment further.

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 11:31am

Hi, that really caught me by surprise. So the features announced, like the header cards, will never work unless I write my own css code for them? That doesn’t really makes much sense. I was under the impression that the cards would work right off the bat. The header cards work partially, so I figured out there must be something wrong with my Casper theme , but since it is a new install, IDK

mjw · March 7, 2022, 1:25pm

You didn’t point out that you were using a callout card; the image implied an HTML card. I can’t comment on Casper since I don’t use this theme. However, they do work with themes from Biron.

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 1:35pm

But how do they natively work??? The screenshots show it working on Casper, but they don’t work on my fresh installation. So what is going on here? Why the official post shows screenshots of something that is not implemented on the default theme??

mjw · March 7, 2022, 1:49pm

Most likely because they do work.

You’ll need to share a little more information about your installation. And please share the HTML block as this may have broken CSS further down.

Edit: I just changed the theme to Casper on one of my sites and added some cards. They all render correctly.

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 2:01pm

Okay now I’m really confused. My installation runs on windows, locally. I did nothing, just npm install ghost, then selected Casper. That’s all I did. Added a header callout card and it’s broken. Did I missed something?

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 2:11pm

I’m going to do a fresh install, but damn, I expected to work from day one. This might be my fault somehow, I just can’t figure how.

mjw · March 7, 2022, 4:51pm

What instructions did you follow to install Ghost? I’d expect you to do the following, so wonder if you used an outdated guide.

npm install ghost-cli@latest -g
ghost install local

Edit: I just created another local site with Casper. As you can see, everything renders correctly after following the above instructions.

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 6:38pm

Something must be going on.

This is what I did:

npm install ghost-cli@latest -g
ghost install local

And this is what I got.

What you see there is the Header Card and the Callout card.

I did nothing different than you did. Test on Chrome and Firefox, latest version both. I’m running a windows 10 machine. Should be fine either way.

$ ghost install local
√ Checking system Node.js version - found v16.14.0
√ Checking current folder permissions
√ Checking memory availability
√ Checking free space
√ Checking for latest Ghost version
√ Setting up install directory
√ Downloading and installing Ghost v4.38.0
√ Finishing install process
√ Configuring Ghost
√ Setting up instance
√ Starting Ghost

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doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 6:43pm

I just found that for some reason I am not getting a JS file. Portal.min.js shows as 302 (not found). No idea why this is happening, no idea what it does or if it has something to do with my problem. I can see it later gets loaded, but I cannot be sure if it is the same file, even if it has the same name. Just noticed it and posted it here.

mjw · March 7, 2022, 7:22pm

HTTP 302 is a temporary redirection, but as you say, the file loads.

Again, what is in the HTML block? Where does the “sasaasas” etc. come from?

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 7:38pm

There is no HTML block, I’m using the editor and adding a card through the editor.

Like this

And when I look at the post, this is what I get:

The DIV is there, the classes are there, but for some reason, the CSS styles are not showing up.

Here is me adding a button. This is the editor callout.

And when I hit Publish, this is what I get on the site:

mjw · March 7, 2022, 8:02pm

It looks like cards.min.css isn’t loading. What happens when you type “http://localhost:2368/public/cards.min.css” in your browser? (Make sure you specify the correct port)

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 8:05pm

I get a 404 error, you are right, seems that file is not loading. But I don’t see the error anywhere?

I found this post, a guy reported the same issue. Sadly, he seems to have abandoned ghost.

My package.json is correct.

The http__localhost_2368__development.log shows this (a 404 error for the cards.min.css)

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mjw · March 7, 2022, 8:32pm

Is the line missing in <head> … </head> or just not found? What’s in ./content/public?

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 8:37pm

The line is missing, yes:

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mjw · March 7, 2022, 8:52pm

Look in ./content/public not ./current/content/public. I’ve no idea what’s happening, but it may be the symbolic links (I don’t use Windows, so not much help here.) Maybe you can list them to see if they were created correctly?

doncabreraphone · March 7, 2022, 8:57pm

The `./content/public folder is empty too, no Readme file or anything. I should have gone into law school like mom told me ;(

GBJsolution · March 9, 2022, 10:00am

I am the person who reported the issue you have linked. I am still with Ghost and developing themes. In case you like to see those, please visit https://gbjsolution.com/

I was not able to solve the issue that’s why I am using a workaround. At the time of development, I insert the card CSS and javascript from a live production site via code injection.

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://mylivesite.com/public/cards.min.css?v=db70eba112">
<script defer="" src="https://mylivesite.com/public/cards.min.js?v=db70eba112"></script>

If you inspect your live site, within <head> tag you will find CSS and JS. Copy those two lines and add those in your local development site’s code injection.

You are good to go with local development.

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